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aristotle
02-06 02:13 PM
which country you belong to?
India, sorry for missing that in the earlier post.
India, sorry for missing that in the earlier post.
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bigboy007
07-18 05:18 PM
how can i talk to those knowledgeble service reps from the service center. can you please suggest me how i can get to them, i have been trying to talk to them since morning and i could not get beyond the first service rep. any tips on how to get to them
Simple : tell them u have applied and its been more than 3 weeks and no response yet and tell them that last week they asked to call back so that they can forward to other cs reps of service centers
Simple : tell them u have applied and its been more than 3 weeks and no response yet and tell them that last week they asked to call back so that they can forward to other cs reps of service centers
walking_dude
04-26 11:56 PM
Newer version is - as should've been expected - more protectionist than before.
1) It prohibits H1B workers from working in contract positions.There is a redundant provision for the L1 visa as well (there is already a law which does this for L1). However it doesn't prevent American companies from keeping these contract workers in India or elsewhere and co-ordinate the work through web-conferencing, video conferencing, VPN/VNC etc.
2) It increases H1B fees by another 1000 dollars. There will be the added cost of advertising on DOL website. Also, the legal costs of navigating the audits. It also enables Tort attorneys to sue the companies on behalf of labor unions such as IEEE-USA, PG, Bright Future Jobs, Zazona etc. In essence it makes the whole visa program unviable. American companies cannot participate in the visa program without letting the DOL and the Tort attorneys poking their noses in the daily functioning of Corporate America. Imagine which company will apply for H1B when you'll have ads airing on TV from Tort attorneys - 'Have you been displaced by H1B worker? Call 1-800-TORT-ATTORNEY'?
3) It has a whole gamut of so-called 'H1B/L1B worker protections'. Unless and until the complaining foreign worker's visa status/GC status is protected against employer retaliation, these provisions will remain only on paper, as foreigner workers facing the prospect of forced departure from the country will not complain - extra worker protections or not. They might as well scrap these provisions and save some trees in the process!
4) It retains the provision that H1B/L1 worker must be provided all originals for H1B, Green Card etc. However this will be moot, as there won't be many H1B/L1 workers left in the US to take the benefit. They would already have moved to their home countries, brining the salaries down in their home countries die to excess supply. This combined with technical enablers are going to make outsourcing HOT. I think it's a good time to invest in the stocks of these outsourcing companies. Their returns are going to increase exponentially in a year. I am not surprised, if these companies send a 'Thank You' note to Senators Durbin and Grassley for making such a windfall possible.
If this year only 44,000 visas were used after half a month, wait until this law passes. There will already 10,000 or less visa applications. On a short term basis wages will sky-rocket, when companies are already struggling to make the ends meet. This will definitely make the usage of technological innovations such as the ones mentioned in point 1 more appealing to the companies. In the long run Outsourcing will become cheaper and more attractive.
Faced with accute worker shortage and unreasonably high-salaries driven scarcity in an economy under recession, Companies will have only 3 options. 1) Announce bankruptcy and get out of business salvaging what they can 2) Leverage technology to do outsourcing circumventing the need for visas 3) Beg the government for another 'Stimulus' and more borrowed money from the Chinese to pay the salaries.
This will hit hard the humanitarian immigration for refugees, asylees etc. USCIS is a government department run on visa application fees. As H1B fee-base reduces US government will have to appropriate more funds to USCIS to keep these programs running. The cost of these programmes will increasingly be borne by the American tax-payer. As jobs keep getting outsourced at a much faster speed tax-base formed by these H1B/L1 workers will shift to other economies benefiting them, the government will have to increases the taxes to make up for the difference. No doubt this will increase the tax burden on an average American - even those who had nothing to do with H1B, pro- or against.
The day this law passes will be a great day for Outsourcing, and a sad day for America.
Please stop H1 Vs L1 discussion and do not support those who aim to divide this community on various visa types, categories, nationalities etc. Any further attempts by any member in this direction will result in ban. We would appreciate if you read the bill posted by IV and provide some analysis on its content on this thread.
1) It prohibits H1B workers from working in contract positions.There is a redundant provision for the L1 visa as well (there is already a law which does this for L1). However it doesn't prevent American companies from keeping these contract workers in India or elsewhere and co-ordinate the work through web-conferencing, video conferencing, VPN/VNC etc.
2) It increases H1B fees by another 1000 dollars. There will be the added cost of advertising on DOL website. Also, the legal costs of navigating the audits. It also enables Tort attorneys to sue the companies on behalf of labor unions such as IEEE-USA, PG, Bright Future Jobs, Zazona etc. In essence it makes the whole visa program unviable. American companies cannot participate in the visa program without letting the DOL and the Tort attorneys poking their noses in the daily functioning of Corporate America. Imagine which company will apply for H1B when you'll have ads airing on TV from Tort attorneys - 'Have you been displaced by H1B worker? Call 1-800-TORT-ATTORNEY'?
3) It has a whole gamut of so-called 'H1B/L1B worker protections'. Unless and until the complaining foreign worker's visa status/GC status is protected against employer retaliation, these provisions will remain only on paper, as foreigner workers facing the prospect of forced departure from the country will not complain - extra worker protections or not. They might as well scrap these provisions and save some trees in the process!
4) It retains the provision that H1B/L1 worker must be provided all originals for H1B, Green Card etc. However this will be moot, as there won't be many H1B/L1 workers left in the US to take the benefit. They would already have moved to their home countries, brining the salaries down in their home countries die to excess supply. This combined with technical enablers are going to make outsourcing HOT. I think it's a good time to invest in the stocks of these outsourcing companies. Their returns are going to increase exponentially in a year. I am not surprised, if these companies send a 'Thank You' note to Senators Durbin and Grassley for making such a windfall possible.
If this year only 44,000 visas were used after half a month, wait until this law passes. There will already 10,000 or less visa applications. On a short term basis wages will sky-rocket, when companies are already struggling to make the ends meet. This will definitely make the usage of technological innovations such as the ones mentioned in point 1 more appealing to the companies. In the long run Outsourcing will become cheaper and more attractive.
Faced with accute worker shortage and unreasonably high-salaries driven scarcity in an economy under recession, Companies will have only 3 options. 1) Announce bankruptcy and get out of business salvaging what they can 2) Leverage technology to do outsourcing circumventing the need for visas 3) Beg the government for another 'Stimulus' and more borrowed money from the Chinese to pay the salaries.
This will hit hard the humanitarian immigration for refugees, asylees etc. USCIS is a government department run on visa application fees. As H1B fee-base reduces US government will have to appropriate more funds to USCIS to keep these programs running. The cost of these programmes will increasingly be borne by the American tax-payer. As jobs keep getting outsourced at a much faster speed tax-base formed by these H1B/L1 workers will shift to other economies benefiting them, the government will have to increases the taxes to make up for the difference. No doubt this will increase the tax burden on an average American - even those who had nothing to do with H1B, pro- or against.
The day this law passes will be a great day for Outsourcing, and a sad day for America.
Please stop H1 Vs L1 discussion and do not support those who aim to divide this community on various visa types, categories, nationalities etc. Any further attempts by any member in this direction will result in ban. We would appreciate if you read the bill posted by IV and provide some analysis on its content on this thread.
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ItIsNotFunny
03-11 11:25 AM
Lets take mystery out from USCIS. Please contribute:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=24184
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desi3933
03-22 12:36 PM
AC21 is a law but certain provisions of AC21 have been introduced in separate memos.
Job portability under AC21 is also part of a guidance / memo - so if any AC21 case goes for hearing in an immigration court, any change of employers while 485 is pending is considered illegal. This is not very common though.
Incorrect!
Job Portability is part of AC-21 law. Read for yourself.
AC-21 law (http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?position=all&page=H9005&dbname=2000_record)
��(j) JOB FLEXIBILITY FOR LONG DELAYED APPLICANTS FOR ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS TO PERMANENT RESIDENCE.�
A petition under subsection (a)(1)(D) for an individual whose application for adjustment of status pursuant to section 245 has been filed and remained unadjudicated for 180 days or more shall remain valid with respect to a new job if the individual changes jobs or employers if the new job is in the same or a similar occupational classification as the job for which the petition was filed.��
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Not a legal advice.
Job portability under AC21 is also part of a guidance / memo - so if any AC21 case goes for hearing in an immigration court, any change of employers while 485 is pending is considered illegal. This is not very common though.
Incorrect!
Job Portability is part of AC-21 law. Read for yourself.
AC-21 law (http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?position=all&page=H9005&dbname=2000_record)
��(j) JOB FLEXIBILITY FOR LONG DELAYED APPLICANTS FOR ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS TO PERMANENT RESIDENCE.�
A petition under subsection (a)(1)(D) for an individual whose application for adjustment of status pursuant to section 245 has been filed and remained unadjudicated for 180 days or more shall remain valid with respect to a new job if the individual changes jobs or employers if the new job is in the same or a similar occupational classification as the job for which the petition was filed.��
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Not a legal advice.
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sanju
09-24 02:18 AM
I did answer you question, though not explicitly. I hinted that all of us are equal. And BTW: I am an Indian!! (with India as my chargeability area).
Everybody: no posts about frogs pulling down frogs, alright. This discussion is anything but.
And Thanks for the vid post. I am a sucker for comedy (anything to get out of the tragedy that is GC process).
Well, you did not give your easy example, nothing about affirmative action, nothing about representation or overwhelmed by Indian and Chinese thing, and absolutely nothing about preferential treatment. So in-effect, you totally skipped the entire debate, I guess my trick played well, you are now overwhelmed by Frank Caliendo, just as you are overwhelmed by Indian or Chinese.
And while you "hinted" that we are all equals, you did not say - if we are all equals, then why should there be PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT for one group of people over others, unless someone is still practicing APARTHEID. Last time I checked, practicing apartheid is a crime in US and it can land you in jail, not sure if you knew that.
And while you continue to apply for your green card, you are still charging "India" for that because as per you, your country of charge-ability is India, right? If you are actually from India, have you ever heard of Ron Hira. If not, check it out, you will know who he is. You are Ron Hira of country limits, if you know what that means.
Hope you liked the stand-up comedy this time. Oh Frank is just too good. I mean this guy could make you laugh when actually you should be crying, you know what I mean.
Everybody: no posts about frogs pulling down frogs, alright. This discussion is anything but.
And Thanks for the vid post. I am a sucker for comedy (anything to get out of the tragedy that is GC process).
Well, you did not give your easy example, nothing about affirmative action, nothing about representation or overwhelmed by Indian and Chinese thing, and absolutely nothing about preferential treatment. So in-effect, you totally skipped the entire debate, I guess my trick played well, you are now overwhelmed by Frank Caliendo, just as you are overwhelmed by Indian or Chinese.
And while you "hinted" that we are all equals, you did not say - if we are all equals, then why should there be PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT for one group of people over others, unless someone is still practicing APARTHEID. Last time I checked, practicing apartheid is a crime in US and it can land you in jail, not sure if you knew that.
And while you continue to apply for your green card, you are still charging "India" for that because as per you, your country of charge-ability is India, right? If you are actually from India, have you ever heard of Ron Hira. If not, check it out, you will know who he is. You are Ron Hira of country limits, if you know what that means.
Hope you liked the stand-up comedy this time. Oh Frank is just too good. I mean this guy could make you laugh when actually you should be crying, you know what I mean.
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08-22 01:50 PM
Here's an anecdote -
This was back in the late 80s, when I was growing up - in Bangalore.
India had just lost the Finals of a well fought [field] hockey match to Pakistan. We were all very disappointed by the loss, but it saddened me further to see a victory procession with waving Pakistani flags in the Muslim parts of the City.
Ofcourse, India is a secular country and more so the United States.. and you can cheer whoever you please..
But, If you chose to become a US Citizen, and US were in a battle with your country of Origin (let's narrow it down to Sports, to keep it less complicated), which country would you side? If I chose to side with my country of origin, it would make me a hypocrite, wouldn't it ?
This was back in the late 80s, when I was growing up - in Bangalore.
India had just lost the Finals of a well fought [field] hockey match to Pakistan. We were all very disappointed by the loss, but it saddened me further to see a victory procession with waving Pakistani flags in the Muslim parts of the City.
Ofcourse, India is a secular country and more so the United States.. and you can cheer whoever you please..
But, If you chose to become a US Citizen, and US were in a battle with your country of Origin (let's narrow it down to Sports, to keep it less complicated), which country would you side? If I chose to side with my country of origin, it would make me a hypocrite, wouldn't it ?
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gsc999
07-11 01:52 AM
Excellent idea......need only be singles.....:) :)
Yes, and we will make sure flowers are yellow or white. Isn't that the color of friendship.
Yes, and we will make sure flowers are yellow or white. Isn't that the color of friendship.
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abhijitp
12-03 05:58 PM
I like your idea but the minimum is 50$/ month or 100$/ month.
Infact i like the idea of 5$/ month.
If 20,000 people donate 5$/ month = 1.2 million $/ year.
= 1 million $ (after loosing transaction charges)
So next step enable 5$/ month to 100$/ month RECURRING contribution arrangements ASAP.
To avoid transaction charges let users pay quarterly or half-yearly recurring.
i.e. if one wants to donate 5$/ month so it will be 30$/ 6 months etc.
Rgds,
Kris
Why wait? Why not donate NOW whatever your promised amount is for 6 months?
Infact i like the idea of 5$/ month.
If 20,000 people donate 5$/ month = 1.2 million $/ year.
= 1 million $ (after loosing transaction charges)
So next step enable 5$/ month to 100$/ month RECURRING contribution arrangements ASAP.
To avoid transaction charges let users pay quarterly or half-yearly recurring.
i.e. if one wants to donate 5$/ month so it will be 30$/ 6 months etc.
Rgds,
Kris
Why wait? Why not donate NOW whatever your promised amount is for 6 months?
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Slowhand
07-19 01:50 PM
What IV has done is commendable and unprecedented. I also think that most of us here do not know anything about the expenses incurred by IV team or money collected by IV team. It would be a good idea to be transparent in that aspect so that members can have a better understanding of the functioning of the organization and contribute appropriately. Just a suggestion; what do you guys think?
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01-31 01:01 PM
^^^^
I think a few hours is left to vote. so pls do now.
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jonty_11
06-02 12:13 PM
awesome just getting started on this thread...lets get our voices heard..please start calling guys....we need to make this happen....I know some of us feel why bother...but a little 2 min call wont take the bite out of your day...plus it is going to help the common cause that you visit this site for everyday...IV core is planning meticulously for these provisions and bills to be introduced...and now is the time for you the force the issue and give these bills some floor time and approval through house and senate...Please call..
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12-02 01:08 PM
Events with food, music and lots of other fun and all the money goes to IV. We need to form workgroups for doing this in every state.
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StuckInTheMuck
04-30 12:02 AM
Just out of curiosity, why "shred" photocopies, except maybe for better document management and not drowning in paper?
Is there some ramification towards citizenship?
Better documentation is the reason why I got rid of those photocopies (I had crate-loads of them piled up over time). I guess you can just throw this junk in your recycle bin too. But because these are immigration-related papers, and all sorts of shady ID thieves are snooping around these days, I permitted myself a little paranoia and shoved them down my office shredder.
Insane list ...I lost 50% of my head hair staying in US since last 10 yrs and now loose the rest doing the book keeping...no wonder stone age was fun ;-)
Thank your stars - I already lost almost all my hair over the last 10 years of stay here. This is the curse of progress - another million years later, if the human race survives guns and germs, our descendants would likewise wish they were back in our stone age :)
Is there some ramification towards citizenship?
Better documentation is the reason why I got rid of those photocopies (I had crate-loads of them piled up over time). I guess you can just throw this junk in your recycle bin too. But because these are immigration-related papers, and all sorts of shady ID thieves are snooping around these days, I permitted myself a little paranoia and shoved them down my office shredder.
Insane list ...I lost 50% of my head hair staying in US since last 10 yrs and now loose the rest doing the book keeping...no wonder stone age was fun ;-)
Thank your stars - I already lost almost all my hair over the last 10 years of stay here. This is the curse of progress - another million years later, if the human race survives guns and germs, our descendants would likewise wish they were back in our stone age :)
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lost_in_migration
04-11 10:47 AM
I've sent my $100 towards $150K...a drop in the ocean...a drop nonetheless. Thanks to the IV team :)
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desijackass
01-29 10:49 AM
It took 7 working days last december for my passport to come back.
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B3NKobe
06-02 02:57 AM
Maniaci: The design of that is absolutly awsom, im loving it a whole 100%. However id hate to say this but its not really a skin but more of a modification. It wont be accepted in the voting, i really feel bad for saying that as it is such a great mod you did,
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pmpforgc
02-14 07:02 AM
Hi
It is really frustrating that some people instead of volunturing for effort tries to find loop hole or excueses in the IV's efforts. If you can not volunteer atleast support those who are doing that with lots of energy and determination for our cause.
Utlimately at a one day WILL WILL FIND A WAY.
If we are willing to help ourselves than only this thing will happen.
So keep faith in IV core and its efforts and be supportive to their efforts whenever you can.
IV CORE- Please ignore messages from some of the members and KEEP your ENERGY and EFFORTS towards our ULTIMATE GOAL AND MISSION. You all are doing an excellent work.
It is really frustrating that some people instead of volunturing for effort tries to find loop hole or excueses in the IV's efforts. If you can not volunteer atleast support those who are doing that with lots of energy and determination for our cause.
Utlimately at a one day WILL WILL FIND A WAY.
If we are willing to help ourselves than only this thing will happen.
So keep faith in IV core and its efforts and be supportive to their efforts whenever you can.
IV CORE- Please ignore messages from some of the members and KEEP your ENERGY and EFFORTS towards our ULTIMATE GOAL AND MISSION. You all are doing an excellent work.
lacrossegc
12-02 02:00 AM
pansworld,
Its not IV I am worried about ... I trust them completely.
Its the the big bad wolves out there :) .... they might use such info to their advantage ....(call me paranoid)
I believe, the best and safest way to disseminate such important information is through state chapters. I know what you are getting at when suggesting that we should be open about our needs and goals .... The strategic vision is pretty much laid out by the core and is clear enough for the general public (I think) ...
monetary needs... thats a different ball game ...
Its not IV I am worried about ... I trust them completely.
Its the the big bad wolves out there :) .... they might use such info to their advantage ....(call me paranoid)
I believe, the best and safest way to disseminate such important information is through state chapters. I know what you are getting at when suggesting that we should be open about our needs and goals .... The strategic vision is pretty much laid out by the core and is clear enough for the general public (I think) ...
monetary needs... thats a different ball game ...
santb1975
12-02 01:08 PM
Events with food, music and lots of other fun and all the money goes to IV. We need to form workgroups for doing this in every state.
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