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vikram2101
08-22 03:28 PM
I like your response, really -- I think it's frank and hits upon what it means to be Indian at heart.
BUT, when one makes a decision to immigrate - he/she's not just making that decision for himself - but also for his/her spawns and the future generations to come. Is it fair for us to rob them of (well, i know most american born desi kids don't care a rats ass about going/being in India) - what it feels to be an Indian at Heart? what it 'Really' feels like to be watching/talking cricket/movies on 'em gullies, what it's like to be eating gaadi chaat, what a festival should really feel/look like .. and a bunch of other stuff- -that happens only in India.
not trying to discount anyone's opinions .. it's just the internal dilemma that needs addressing
Ofcourse, the world is getting smaller - faster than ever. The next generation of american born desi kids may well be more desi than their indian counterparts .. some food for thought :rolleyes:
BUT, when one makes a decision to immigrate - he/she's not just making that decision for himself - but also for his/her spawns and the future generations to come. Is it fair for us to rob them of (well, i know most american born desi kids don't care a rats ass about going/being in India) - what it feels to be an Indian at Heart? what it 'Really' feels like to be watching/talking cricket/movies on 'em gullies, what it's like to be eating gaadi chaat, what a festival should really feel/look like .. and a bunch of other stuff- -that happens only in India.
not trying to discount anyone's opinions .. it's just the internal dilemma that needs addressing
Ofcourse, the world is getting smaller - faster than ever. The next generation of american born desi kids may well be more desi than their indian counterparts .. some food for thought :rolleyes:
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Bradman
11-09 09:54 AM
I highly doubt that the White called Mr. Bradman abou this name check. white house has other things to worry about that then simply getting ones name check cleared. White has nothing to do with name checks. If it did, my mothers case would have been cleard a long time ago. She is stuck for the past 3 years. She is over 60. i contacted the white house last year. Not even a Thanks for writing form them.
So if it is true, then Bradman congrats, but if you are just pulling our leg, then not a good thing.
What you think and suggest is your problem. I know what all i had go through to be where I am today. I did a receive a call on either occasion from the Presidents office. As a matter of fact when I wrote to the FL and the Senators office then too I received calls.
Keep you subject very precise and on the top of envelop remember to mention "Immigration Assistance". Please use ordinary mail 41 cents stamp and wait and watch.
All the best !!!!
So if it is true, then Bradman congrats, but if you are just pulling our leg, then not a good thing.
What you think and suggest is your problem. I know what all i had go through to be where I am today. I did a receive a call on either occasion from the Presidents office. As a matter of fact when I wrote to the FL and the Senators office then too I received calls.
Keep you subject very precise and on the top of envelop remember to mention "Immigration Assistance". Please use ordinary mail 41 cents stamp and wait and watch.
All the best !!!!
permfiling
12-02 09:57 PM
As some one suggested ads are good source, I think the local state chapters should encourage members to donate/ join for recrurring contributions.
I just contributed $300. I will sign up for recurring ...
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PlainSpeak
04-20 12:03 PM
May be that is the reason you took offense when people commented on Bcom thing. An MBA is valuable only if your bachelors degree is valuable. Many people have this wrong notion that it does not matter what you have in your bachelors, if you get an MBA everything is all set. Companies need engineer + MBA combination. Very few companies hire MBAs for accounting work. DOn't confuse accounting with finance, they are different. I can tell you that for sure, as i work in finance.
Contents of MBA also matter, most people take easy way out by taking all bluff management, marketing and strategy courses. Very few take the hardcore finance courses such as derivatives, fixed income, and valuations (these courses could differ in level of difficulty based on school).
Can someone please give a GC immediately to getgreensoon1 so that he can get off this forum for good and not talk BS anymore :D
Contents of MBA also matter, most people take easy way out by taking all bluff management, marketing and strategy courses. Very few take the hardcore finance courses such as derivatives, fixed income, and valuations (these courses could differ in level of difficulty based on school).
Can someone please give a GC immediately to getgreensoon1 so that he can get off this forum for good and not talk BS anymore :D
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malaGCPahije
06-13 09:24 AM
Some of us are in Eb3 because of our experience, some of us are in EB3 because of circumstances (I had 7 years exp when my GC was files, but 3 years out of it was spent as consultant in my current employer place. Hence we could use only 4 years as exp and hence EB3), some of us are in EB3 because of lazy lawyers.
We cannot blame EB2 or any other category for thinking for themselves. That is just human nature. I have done everything to support IV and will continue to do so, be it letters, faxes, calls or money. But I also know that no one is going to fight for Eb3-I. Once my EB2 friends get their GC, there may be no IV remaining. That is OK with me. I will still contribute.
All I want from EB2 people is to stop making fun of EB3 cracking jokes about losers, etc. You never know when destiny takes a U-turn. It may as well happen that all EB3-I get their GC and the joke crackers never get it. So please, EB2 should enjoy their forward movement of dates. But please do not make fun of EB3-I.
Thanks.
We cannot blame EB2 or any other category for thinking for themselves. That is just human nature. I have done everything to support IV and will continue to do so, be it letters, faxes, calls or money. But I also know that no one is going to fight for Eb3-I. Once my EB2 friends get their GC, there may be no IV remaining. That is OK with me. I will still contribute.
All I want from EB2 people is to stop making fun of EB3 cracking jokes about losers, etc. You never know when destiny takes a U-turn. It may as well happen that all EB3-I get their GC and the joke crackers never get it. So please, EB2 should enjoy their forward movement of dates. But please do not make fun of EB3-I.
Thanks.
akred
07-14 07:26 PM
Done
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rockstart
06-16 01:36 PM
Guys we have called all theree sets of lawmakers. Some senior member was saying we need to lobby hard with Republican's. Please let us know how we can do that. It is better to do it in an organized manner, so if some one can filter the three list on republicans we need to call again or if they can post a list of new republicans that we need to call. Please guide us.
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senthil1
05-24 01:06 PM
They are trying to make sure that current situation is better. The message is clear.If you ask more you will lose whatever yo have also.
It looks like these politicians want to create more and more pain instead helping to get out of the problem.
It looks like these politicians want to create more and more pain instead helping to get out of the problem.
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gc_on_demand
04-28 11:10 AM
Define which Indian community?
Gujratis who own motels and shops and will want more family immigration vs H1B
or
Indians who are now citizens. They will want less Indians to reduce competition for their jobs or for their children.
or
Desi consulting owners : less said the better
or
Desi H1b, students EAD etc...
They are a scared lot anyways and only worry about their immigration status and making dollars. Go tell them about IV if you can?
So tell which Indian community you are talking about?
Gangu ???
Didnot understand ur first two points... Are Gujaratis not indian ? Can you be little more specific ?
Gujratis who own motels and shops and will want more family immigration vs H1B
or
Indians who are now citizens. They will want less Indians to reduce competition for their jobs or for their children.
or
Desi consulting owners : less said the better
or
Desi H1b, students EAD etc...
They are a scared lot anyways and only worry about their immigration status and making dollars. Go tell them about IV if you can?
So tell which Indian community you are talking about?
Gangu ???
Didnot understand ur first two points... Are Gujaratis not indian ? Can you be little more specific ?
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masouds
08-26 07:35 PM
I totally agree everbody. ICICI bank all time sucks. I have account with them for 5 yrs. and everytime I do transfer money to India (FYI I do Wire Trasnfer On Monday morning US CST only should be credited in 1 business day, expected that the money will be credited by Tuesday IST ICICI Business time). What happens eveytime they will credit after 5 business days and provided with lowest Exchange rate.
hmm, As an Iranian citizen, I cannot do this (transfer money to Iran) anymore. When I used to live in Canada, and before all this Nuke fiasco, I could do this, and the way I got away with losing minimum amount of money was that I asked my bank to transfer, say, 2k in US$ to Iranian bank to be held until my dad went to collect it. He got $2000, with no subtraction, rate conversion or anything. He could sell it to the money exchange shops at the rate of the day. You should try doing that (Send US funds, instead of doing the send & exchange through the bank which has a vested interest in this...)
hmm, As an Iranian citizen, I cannot do this (transfer money to Iran) anymore. When I used to live in Canada, and before all this Nuke fiasco, I could do this, and the way I got away with losing minimum amount of money was that I asked my bank to transfer, say, 2k in US$ to Iranian bank to be held until my dad went to collect it. He got $2000, with no subtraction, rate conversion or anything. He could sell it to the money exchange shops at the rate of the day. You should try doing that (Send US funds, instead of doing the send & exchange through the bank which has a vested interest in this...)
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misanthrope
10-03 11:48 AM
Yes you called sleazy consultants..check your stmnt.
Ok, clearly you did not read what I wrote or you did not understand it. Here is what I wrote..
"Well, I don't think gctest is against EB3. He is against consultants from sleazy bodyshopping companies, which is right.". Some one left me a red saying "not all consultants from sleazy bodyshopping companies are incapable." I agree and I never said that. If I came across that way then I apologize.
Everybody is trying to survive in this world ..diff people react differently to same situation..lying on resume/achievements is not illegal(reason y no body is prosecuted because of this fact..they are simply denied that benefit) however its unethical ..but iam not here to preach ethics.
VERY valid point. But my question is, do you support it?
A fictional scenario to check whether you are ready to take advantage of a loop hole if its in your favour.( A nice quote on this -Everybody likes discrimination when its in their favour and they dont raise their voice then)
Yes, nice quote and very true too. But again, that is not the argument here.
My point to say all companies lie/manipulate things to certain extent..desi consultants atleast dont deprive lives like other BIG companies where shareholders are kept in dark until they realize that company is no more worth anything.
Comparing one wrong doing with another does not justify as an argument. It is actually a logical fallacy. In other words, 2 wrongs do not make a right. Try doing that in the court of law.
Iam not supporting any malpractises are anything anyways this is not a criminal thing its just immoral ..
Malpractices are criminal (if law is violated) but a corporation cannot be tried criminally because it cannot go to jail.:)
You may have noted that I did not bring up morality even though I wanted to because everyone has a different measuring stick for it.
however if theres a loop hole and people want to chance it its upto them. They will be appropriately denied if they are caught, However its not like they are killing anybody.
I totally agree with that. Also, I don't think they will be denied because they did not do anything wrong. System provides them with an option for doing so.
Finally what do you think when even govt is planning to make illegals legals ..its respecting peoples wishes against legal things(ofcourse they get benifitted)Humanity/compassion is number one..rules are for our well being ..they are not hard and fast.
That's a perspective and again 2 wrongs cannot make one right.
Check for your reputation here i think it says some thing.
Yes. It is stupidity by consensus.
Ok, clearly you did not read what I wrote or you did not understand it. Here is what I wrote..
"Well, I don't think gctest is against EB3. He is against consultants from sleazy bodyshopping companies, which is right.". Some one left me a red saying "not all consultants from sleazy bodyshopping companies are incapable." I agree and I never said that. If I came across that way then I apologize.
Everybody is trying to survive in this world ..diff people react differently to same situation..lying on resume/achievements is not illegal(reason y no body is prosecuted because of this fact..they are simply denied that benefit) however its unethical ..but iam not here to preach ethics.
VERY valid point. But my question is, do you support it?
A fictional scenario to check whether you are ready to take advantage of a loop hole if its in your favour.( A nice quote on this -Everybody likes discrimination when its in their favour and they dont raise their voice then)
Yes, nice quote and very true too. But again, that is not the argument here.
My point to say all companies lie/manipulate things to certain extent..desi consultants atleast dont deprive lives like other BIG companies where shareholders are kept in dark until they realize that company is no more worth anything.
Comparing one wrong doing with another does not justify as an argument. It is actually a logical fallacy. In other words, 2 wrongs do not make a right. Try doing that in the court of law.
Iam not supporting any malpractises are anything anyways this is not a criminal thing its just immoral ..
Malpractices are criminal (if law is violated) but a corporation cannot be tried criminally because it cannot go to jail.:)
You may have noted that I did not bring up morality even though I wanted to because everyone has a different measuring stick for it.
however if theres a loop hole and people want to chance it its upto them. They will be appropriately denied if they are caught, However its not like they are killing anybody.
I totally agree with that. Also, I don't think they will be denied because they did not do anything wrong. System provides them with an option for doing so.
Finally what do you think when even govt is planning to make illegals legals ..its respecting peoples wishes against legal things(ofcourse they get benifitted)Humanity/compassion is number one..rules are for our well being ..they are not hard and fast.
That's a perspective and again 2 wrongs cannot make one right.
Check for your reputation here i think it says some thing.
Yes. It is stupidity by consensus.
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JazzByTheBay
12-13 05:16 PM
But the cost of collecting 5 bucks a month from 20,000 members makes this less than desirable. An yearly $60-100 membership fees is what I'd expect to pay to any organization - more if that organization is actually working to make a significant difference to my life, to resolve issues that affect me more most other stuff.
A 2-month trial-membership is more like what a business does... and may not be desirable for all the house-keeping involved in such efforts. For subscription-based content websites, this may be O.K. - but that's exactly what we're not, and shouldn't be perceived as such.
jazz
I would suggest giving a 2 months trial membership during which the candidate can examine the benefits of IV. After the trail period, charge a nominal $5 monthly fee. I think that should be very reasonable, and nobody would lose their sleep over parting with $5. That would easily raise about $100K per month (~20K members*$5).
However we should continue to encourage members to commit to monthly contributions if they choose to voluntarily. Also as someone suggested, different access privelages may be assigned.
A 2-month trial-membership is more like what a business does... and may not be desirable for all the house-keeping involved in such efforts. For subscription-based content websites, this may be O.K. - but that's exactly what we're not, and shouldn't be perceived as such.
jazz
I would suggest giving a 2 months trial membership during which the candidate can examine the benefits of IV. After the trail period, charge a nominal $5 monthly fee. I think that should be very reasonable, and nobody would lose their sleep over parting with $5. That would easily raise about $100K per month (~20K members*$5).
However we should continue to encourage members to commit to monthly contributions if they choose to voluntarily. Also as someone suggested, different access privelages may be assigned.
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Substitution is excluded. In fact a few ppl did pay 1000$ regardless and lost money.. Nebraska center is taking it's own sweet time..
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vikram2101
08-22 03:28 PM
I like your response, really -- I think it's frank and hits upon what it means to be Indian at heart.
BUT, when one makes a decision to immigrate - he/she's not just making that decision for himself - but also for his/her spawns and the future generations to come. Is it fair for us to rob them of (well, i know most american born desi kids don't care a rats ass about going/being in India) - what it feels to be an Indian at Heart? what it 'Really' feels like to be watching/talking cricket/movies on 'em gullies, what it's like to be eating gaadi chaat, what a festival should really feel/look like .. and a bunch of other stuff- -that happens only in India.
not trying to discount anyone's opinions .. it's just the internal dilemma that needs addressing
Ofcourse, the world is getting smaller - faster than ever. The next generation of american born desi kids may well be more desi than their indian counterparts .. some food for thought :rolleyes:
BUT, when one makes a decision to immigrate - he/she's not just making that decision for himself - but also for his/her spawns and the future generations to come. Is it fair for us to rob them of (well, i know most american born desi kids don't care a rats ass about going/being in India) - what it feels to be an Indian at Heart? what it 'Really' feels like to be watching/talking cricket/movies on 'em gullies, what it's like to be eating gaadi chaat, what a festival should really feel/look like .. and a bunch of other stuff- -that happens only in India.
not trying to discount anyone's opinions .. it's just the internal dilemma that needs addressing
Ofcourse, the world is getting smaller - faster than ever. The next generation of american born desi kids may well be more desi than their indian counterparts .. some food for thought :rolleyes:
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$eeGrEeN
01-30 09:20 AM
i quote from the news article .....
"This rule will not only eliminate substitutition on the OMB approval and release in the Federal Register but also kill the certified labor certification unless it is used within 45 days from the date of certification! Please stay tuned to this web site reporting."
this still means one's employer can substitute it within the 45 day period ?? isn't it ...
"This rule will not only eliminate substitutition on the OMB approval and release in the Federal Register but also kill the certified labor certification unless it is used within 45 days from the date of certification! Please stay tuned to this web site reporting."
this still means one's employer can substitute it within the 45 day period ?? isn't it ...
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pappu
07-19 10:07 AM
Message from Pappu:
Yes this is not a typo. This is true. Aman has made more financial sacrifices and time sacrifices than anyone else. Not a single penny has been reimbursed to him for his trips to DC, food and stay in DC or car rental in DC. He even risked his job and went to DC on unpaid leave at critical times because lobbying was important for getting our work done. We in the core team know this and when we see the kind of contributions we get from members, we feel disappointed that our efforts are not valued. When we started the $20 contributions people felt $20 was too high and wanted $10 per month or less. The kind of work and effort that is needed to push a single provision is phenomenal and needs lot of capital. The more the better. Sometimes reading posts that say IV core is selfish also disappoints us. People do not know the effort that goes in getting anything done. This website is simply a tool for us to communicate to everyone. The big effort is the lobbying work. We hope the Buisnessweek article helps people realize our hard work and people value it by contributing to it and helping us in all action items.
Yes this is not a typo. This is true. Aman has made more financial sacrifices and time sacrifices than anyone else. Not a single penny has been reimbursed to him for his trips to DC, food and stay in DC or car rental in DC. He even risked his job and went to DC on unpaid leave at critical times because lobbying was important for getting our work done. We in the core team know this and when we see the kind of contributions we get from members, we feel disappointed that our efforts are not valued. When we started the $20 contributions people felt $20 was too high and wanted $10 per month or less. The kind of work and effort that is needed to push a single provision is phenomenal and needs lot of capital. The more the better. Sometimes reading posts that say IV core is selfish also disappoints us. People do not know the effort that goes in getting anything done. This website is simply a tool for us to communicate to everyone. The big effort is the lobbying work. We hope the Buisnessweek article helps people realize our hard work and people value it by contributing to it and helping us in all action items.
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kakarla
03-16 09:09 PM
Hello,
I have used the below thread when I was in the same situation as yours. Hope this helps.
http://boards.immigrationportal.com/showthread.php?t=137088
Regards,
kakarla.
I have used the below thread when I was in the same situation as yours. Hope this helps.
http://boards.immigrationportal.com/showthread.php?t=137088
Regards,
kakarla.
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vsrinir
09-17 10:46 AM
Why C-SPAN???
WHEN YOU HAVE A DIRECT LINK
I was checking the c-span.org and couldn't find this.
WHEN YOU HAVE A DIRECT LINK
I was checking the c-span.org and couldn't find this.
kerstbrd
07-18 09:21 PM
For diversity they have GC lottery. Having per country limits in EB categories doesnot make sense
from the July bulletin
Region All DV Chargeability Areas Except Those Listed Separately
AFRICA 35,500
ASIA 7,750
EUROPE 23,000
NORTH AMERICA (BAHAMAS) 12
OCEANIA 1,800
SOUTH AMERICA, and the CARIBBEAN 2,500
Unless they reject/disqualify 30k Africans and close to 20k Europeans I don't see the diversity here. Notice Asia, the most populous continent has a measly 7k. But thats a different argument for another thread.
I think increasing the total amount of visas per year is what we need.
from the July bulletin
Region All DV Chargeability Areas Except Those Listed Separately
AFRICA 35,500
ASIA 7,750
EUROPE 23,000
NORTH AMERICA (BAHAMAS) 12
OCEANIA 1,800
SOUTH AMERICA, and the CARIBBEAN 2,500
Unless they reject/disqualify 30k Africans and close to 20k Europeans I don't see the diversity here. Notice Asia, the most populous continent has a measly 7k. But thats a different argument for another thread.
I think increasing the total amount of visas per year is what we need.
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07-19 09:48 AM
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